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Community » Topic: Hybrid version 0.8 discussion http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion Theme Hybrid en-US Sat, 25 Oct 2014 17:29:19 +0000 bbpress 1.0.2 <![CDATA[Search]]> q http://themehybrid.com/community/search.php Justin Tadlock on "Hybrid version 0.8 discussion" http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/4#post-3151 Tue, 06 Jul 2010 11:44:57 +0000 Justin Tadlock 3151@http://themehybrid.com/community/ <p>Version 0.8 is now out.</p> <p>Thank you to all of you that took the time to participate in this discussion. Version 0.9 discussions will open soon. ;) </p> Justin Tadlock on "Hybrid version 0.8 discussion" http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/4#post-3014 Fri, 30 Apr 2010 14:50:16 +0000 Justin Tadlock 3014@http://themehybrid.com/community/ <p>It would be nice to have an archives page auto-created for post types that need archives. I honestly want to wait until the debate has settled down a bit in the WP community on this one. </p> <p>I'm riding the fence though. Some post types need them (e.g., posts, movie and book databases) while others don't (e.g., pages, nav menus). It's more of a case-by-case scenario. Personally, I'd like to see an option for <code>register_post_type()</code> like <code>public_archive</code> or something. </p> Patrick Daly on "Hybrid version 0.8 discussion" http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/4#post-2945 Wed, 28 Apr 2010 20:28:53 +0000 Patrick Daly 2945@http://themehybrid.com/community/ <p>Actually, it'd be even nicer if I didn't have to create an archives page, but <code>archives.php</code> did all the work on its own. But if I wanted a special template for movies then I could resort to <code>archive-movies.php</code>. </p> Patrick Daly on "Hybrid version 0.8 discussion" http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/4#post-2944 Wed, 28 Apr 2010 20:27:02 +0000 Patrick Daly 2944@http://themehybrid.com/community/ <p>So I know 0.8 supports templating for custom post types in the sense that a post type's page can be templated. But, is there built in support for custom post type archives?</p> <p>Example:</p> <p>Custom Post Type: Movies<br /> Podcast Post: "How to Make a Movie"<br /> Post URL: example.com/movies/how-to-make-a-movie/</p> <p>If I put <code>movies.php</code> in my child theme then I can do whatever I want to the post. But I need a template for example.com/movies/. I <em>could</em> create a WP page, a new template, and link them together for every post type I have. But, it'd be nice if I could just do <code>archive-movies.php</code>. Thoughts? </p> Kyle D on "Hybrid version 0.8 discussion" http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/4#post-2894 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 12:56:42 +0000 Kyle D 2894@http://themehybrid.com/community/ <p>Looks like some awesome additions, Justin. The reloaded Breadcrumb Trail will be especially handy. </p> Justin Tadlock on "Hybrid version 0.8 discussion" http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/4#post-2893 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 06:05:06 +0000 Justin Tadlock 2893@http://themehybrid.com/community/ <p><strong>Breadcrumb Trail: Reloaded</strong></p> <p>I've been hard at work tonight beefing up the breadcrumb trail to take advantage of all kinds of scenarios. Here's a list of some of the changes:</p> <ul> <li>Recognizes any hierarchical taxonomy.</li> <li>Works with hierarchical post types.</li> <li>Ability to add any taxonomy for a singular "post" (any post type) view.</li> <li>Smart path handling (see below).</li> </ul> <p>The last part needs some explanation and is at the heart of the changes.</p> <p>Let's suppose you have a custom taxonomy with a structure like this:</p> <pre><code>yoursite.com/actors/will-smith</code></pre> <p>Your breadcrumb trail would normally read:</p> <pre><code>Home / Will Smith</code></pre> <p>Not very good, right? I wanted to make that better. So, if you create a page called Actors (slug of <code>actors</code>), you'll get this trail instead:</p> <pre><code>Home / Actors / Will Smith</code></pre> <p>This type of thing will work with all sorts of structures and any post type or taxonomy. </p> Justin Tadlock on "Hybrid version 0.8 discussion" http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/4#post-2892 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 05:56:58 +0000 Justin Tadlock 2892@http://themehybrid.com/community/ <p><strong>Post shortlink shortcode</strong></p> <p>For those of you looking forward to the new shortlink feature in WP 3.0, I've added a quick and easy shortcode to access it:</p> <pre><code>[entry-shortlink text=&quot;Shortlink&quot; before=&quot;&quot; after=&quot;&quot;]</code></pre> Justin Tadlock on "Hybrid version 0.8 discussion" http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/4#post-2891 Mon, 12 Apr 2010 03:40:23 +0000 Justin Tadlock 2891@http://themehybrid.com/community/ <p><strong>More efficient Authors widget</strong></p> <p>I've been hesitant in the past to step outside the standard WP functionality with the widgets, trying to keep them as simple as possible code-wise. Unfortunately, no steps have really been made in the last couple of years to make <code>wp_list_authors()</code> more efficient in the core WP code.</p> <p>But, not long ago (2.7, 2.8?), transients were introduced. Transients are simply database options with an expiration date.</p> <p>In order to make the Authors widget not make 2 or 3 database calls per author (default WP functionality), it'll take advantage of a transient to only make a single database call. </p> Justin Tadlock on "Hybrid version 0.8 discussion" http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/4#post-2890 Mon, 12 Apr 2010 03:34:17 +0000 Justin Tadlock 2890@http://themehybrid.com/community/ <p><strong>Get the Image caching</strong></p> <p>Version 0.5 of <em>Get the Image</em> will be shipped with version 0.8 of Hybrid. This version will utilize the internal WordPress caching system.</p> <p>What does this mean for most people? Probably nothing, especially since WP doesn't persistently cache things across page views.</p> <p>In order to really take advantage of persistent, object-level caching, you'll need to be using a plugin such as WP File Cache:<br /> <a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wp-file-cache" rel="nofollow">http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wp-file-cache</a></p> <p>I'd also advise on reading this part of the Codex's caching documentation:<br /> <a href="http://codex.wordpress.org/Function_Reference/WP_Cache#Persistent_Cache_Plugins" rel="nofollow">http://codex.wordpress.org/Function_Reference/WP_Cache#Persistent_Cache_Plugins</a></p> <p>I'm going to really start pushing these types of plugins for 0.8 because, from what I've seen, you'll probably need this if running multiple navigation menus (WP 3.0 feature). </p> fb on "Hybrid version 0.8 discussion" http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/4#post-2831 Sun, 28 Mar 2010 09:36:19 +0000 fb 2831@http://themehybrid.com/community/ <p>Ok pleased to hear you are on the case as usual. Looking forward to the new menu with all the bells and whistles, but can imagine it is going to cause all sorts of support headaches </p> Justin Tadlock on "Hybrid version 0.8 discussion" http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/4#post-2830 Sun, 28 Mar 2010 04:05:20 +0000 Justin Tadlock 2830@http://themehybrid.com/community/ <blockquote><p> Regarding the Custom taxonomies and post types for your new menus, just incase you have not seen/heard or implemented yet wordpress-3-0-menu-update seems that this will be part of the final menu setup...</p> </blockquote> <p>The code for it got removed after that post was made. But, it's been added again. There's some arguments for and against it, so we might just have to wait and see.</p> <blockquote><p> Seems pretty cool, although I am hoping that they drop this target="_self" pain out, I mean surely they can't leave that in there... Haven't mentioned this to anybody, but I think somebody should, don't you?</p> </blockquote> <p>I've already mentioned it on Trac, but nobody's listening. Whatever happens, it'll be removed from the Hybrid theme. </p> fb on "Hybrid version 0.8 discussion" http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/4#post-2829 Sun, 28 Mar 2010 00:44:33 +0000 fb 2829@http://themehybrid.com/community/ <p>Regarding the <a href="http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/3#post-2790">Custom taxonomies and post types for your new menus</a>, just incase you have not seen/heard or implemented yet <a href="http://wpengineer.com/wordpress-3-0-menu-update/">wordpress-3-0-menu-update</a> seems that this will be part of the final menu setup...</p> <p>Seems pretty cool, although I am hoping that they drop this <code>target=&quot;_self&quot;</code> pain out, I mean surely they can't leave that in there... Haven't mentioned this to anybody, but I think somebody should, don't you?</p> <p>looking forward to <code>0.8</code>, I have <code>3.0-aplha</code> running atm, not many posts atm but 5 <code>custom post-types</code> and 7 different <code>taxonomies</code>, if you need any testing doing...</p> <p>Keep up the good work </p> Justin Tadlock on "Hybrid version 0.8 discussion" http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/4#post-2821 Thu, 25 Mar 2010 07:03:34 +0000 Justin Tadlock 2821@http://themehybrid.com/community/ <blockquote><p> Hi Justin, just wondering what the chances of you adding BuddyPress templates to Hybrid version 0.8 is? </p></blockquote> <p>There's no chance of it being in 0.8.</p> <p>I'm still deciding about how to handle the possible future integration of the two. I just haven't found a solution that appeals to me. </p> Justin Tadlock on "Hybrid version 0.8 discussion" http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/4#post-2820 Thu, 25 Mar 2010 06:57:01 +0000 Justin Tadlock 2820@http://themehybrid.com/community/ <blockquote><p> are you planning to release some beta version for 0.8 version? </p></blockquote> <p>Yes, there'll be a beta release of 0.8 before the final release is out. </p> davek on "Hybrid version 0.8 discussion" http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/4#post-2808 Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:39:18 +0000 davek 2808@http://themehybrid.com/community/ <p>Hi Justin, just wondering what the chances of you adding BuddyPress templates to Hybrid version 0.8 is?<br /> On my testing, BuddyPress pages just need a few classes changed, css additions &amp; the removal of a call to sidebar.php</p> <p>Maybe a Hybrid BuddyPress addon pack would be a good idea?<br /> I'd be happy to contribute if you need. </p> JohnnyPea on "Hybrid version 0.8 discussion" http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/3#post-2803 Sun, 21 Mar 2010 06:54:09 +0000 JohnnyPea 2803@http://themehybrid.com/community/ <p>Hey,</p> <p>are you planning to release some beta version for 0.8 version? </p> Justin Tadlock on "Hybrid version 0.8 discussion" http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/3#post-2799 Sat, 20 Mar 2010 02:25:10 +0000 Justin Tadlock 2799@http://themehybrid.com/community/ <p><strong>RE: post_status entry class</strong></p> <p>I'm adding it as I write this. Having the post status listed is a great idea, especially with WP 3.0 allowing custom post statuses. </p> Egyptological on "Hybrid version 0.8 discussion" http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/3#post-2798 Sat, 20 Mar 2010 00:55:37 +0000 Egyptological 2798@http://themehybrid.com/community/ <p><strong>Add post_status to post class list</strong></p> <p>Could 0.8 please add post_status to the post class list if post_status is 'future'.</p> <p>So <code>&lt;div id=&quot;post-497&quot; class=&quot;hentry post post-1 odd author-kate category-test&quot;&gt;</code><br /> would become<code>&lt;div id=&quot;post-497&quot; class=&quot;hentry &lt;strong&gt;future&lt;/strong&gt; post post-1 odd author-kate category-test&quot;&gt;</code> </p> Jan Egbert on "Hybrid version 0.8 discussion" http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/3#post-2797 Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:52:20 +0000 Jan Egbert 2797@http://themehybrid.com/community/ <p>Taxonomies and post types in nav menus = Magnificant! If WordPress was Formula 1, Hybrid would be in pole position every single race. </p> Justin Tadlock on "Hybrid version 0.8 discussion" http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/3#post-2790 Wed, 17 Mar 2010 03:01:28 +0000 Justin Tadlock 2790@http://themehybrid.com/community/ <p><strong>Custom taxonomies and post types for your nav menus</strong></p> <p>WP 3.0's navigation menu system will allow you to add three different things to your menus:</p> <ul> <li>Pages</li> <li>Categories</li> <li>Custom Links</li> </ul> <p>Well, that's obviously not good enough for Hybrid users. :)</p> <p>I've decided that all taxonomies and post types should be available for use in your menus. As long as the taxonomy/post type has <code>public =&gt; true</code>, it'll show up for use. Here's a screenshot:<br /> <a href="http://justintadlock.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/menus-custom-stuff.png" rel="nofollow">http://justintadlock.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/menus-custom-stuff.png</a> </p> Justin Tadlock on "Hybrid version 0.8 discussion" http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/3#post-2760 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:46:17 +0000 Justin Tadlock 2760@http://themehybrid.com/community/ <p><strong>Redesigned widgets screenshot</strong></p> <p>Here's a look at widgets in 0.8:<br /> <a href="http://justintadlock.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/widgets-hybrid-0.8.png" rel="nofollow">http://justintadlock.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/widgets-hybrid-0.8.png</a> </p> billnanson on "Hybrid version 0.8 discussion" http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/3#post-2751 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:28:46 +0000 billnanson 2751@http://themehybrid.com/community/ <p>"Nav Menus Screenshot"</p> <p>Like it! </p> Justin Tadlock on "Hybrid version 0.8 discussion" http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/3#post-2750 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:12:32 +0000 Justin Tadlock 2750@http://themehybrid.com/community/ <p><strong>Nav Menus Screenshot</strong></p> <p>Here's a teaser for the new menu management system:<br /> <a href="http://justintadlock.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/primary-menu-screen.png" rel="nofollow">http://justintadlock.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/primary-menu-screen.png</a></p> <p>Hybrid will come with the option to turn on the menu system. Once that's done, you'll have the option of editing the "Primary Menu." This menu will replace the current "Page Nav" used in the theme. </p> Justin Tadlock on "Hybrid version 0.8 discussion" http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/3#post-2749 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:05:01 +0000 Justin Tadlock 2749@http://themehybrid.com/community/ <p><strong>Navigation Menu Shortcode</strong></p> <p>I really like the direction the navigation menu system is going because it allows me to create cool things like this.</p> <p>I just added a <code>[nav-menu]</code> shortcode to the theme. So, you'll be able to create custom nav menus and display them in any shortcode-aware area. </p> Egyptological on "Hybrid version 0.8 discussion" http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/3#post-2746 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:47:05 +0000 Egyptological 2746@http://themehybrid.com/community/ <p>@billnanson</p> <p>It looks good. I could definitely use something like that on my site, although I'd want it in a page rather than in the top menu so I'd need to deconstruct it a bit.</p> <p>I'd suggest you make Reset more prominent when you're not showing the full set.</p> <p>Kate </p> Justin Tadlock on "Hybrid version 0.8 discussion" http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/3#post-2743 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 18:39:39 +0000 Justin Tadlock 2743@http://themehybrid.com/community/ <p><strong>Improved user friendliness of the widgets</strong></p> <p>The one thing I've always thought Hybrid done better than any other theme is overwrite most of the default widgets with super-powerful alternatives. While it's great to have loads of options at your fingertips, it'd be even greater if it was all point-and-click.</p> <p><strong>Pointing and clicking</strong></p> <p>Currently, a lot of the settings require direct input of values. Version 0.8 will allow you to select things in many of those cases.</p> <p>For example, let's look at the improved "Bookmarks" widget:<br /> <a href="http://justintadlock.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/bookmarks-widget.png" rel="nofollow">http://justintadlock.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/bookmarks-widget.png</a></p> <p>In the current version, the <code>category</code>, <code>exclude_category</code>, <code>include</code>, and <code>exclude</code> settings required you to input a comma-separated list of IDs. Now, you can simply select what you want to show.</p> <p><strong>Improved wording</strong></p> <p>Right now, select options are generally untranslated values. Doing it this was from the start was great because it's simply easier to code and runs less risk of having mistakes.</p> <p>Now that I've had time to build the system to a certain point, I've been able to go through and make the changes required to make your lives easier.</p> <p>No longer will you see values like <code>ASC</code> and <code>DESC</code> for the <code>order</code> setting. Instead, you'll have readable options such as <code>Ascending</code> and <code>Descending</code>.</p> <p>Plus, these can be translated, so non-English-speaking users can see these in their own language.</p> <p><strong>Improved interface</strong></p> <p>I've done a little touching up of the overall interface of each widget as well. There was no need for things that require a single or double digit to take up an entire line for their text input. Instead, smaller items like these get floated to the right, on the same line as their form label.</p> <p>Mostly, I've tried to keep things as compact as possible while still leaving as much breathing room as a widget control will allow. </p> Justin Tadlock on "Hybrid version 0.8 discussion" http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/3#post-2742 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 18:22:02 +0000 Justin Tadlock 2742@http://themehybrid.com/community/ <p><strong>New Widget: Navigation Menu</strong></p> <p>WP 3.0 will have a new widget called "Navigation Menu." Of course, it's lacking in options (only title and menu selector), so Hybrid will have a replacement.</p> <p>Here's what Hybrid theme users get:<br /> <a href="http://justintadlock.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/navigation-menu.png" rel="nofollow">http://justintadlock.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/navigation-menu.png</a></p> <p>This may change slightly. It just depends on what options are added/removed from the <code>wp_nav_menu()</code> function during 3.0's development. </p> Justin Tadlock on "Hybrid version 0.8 discussion" http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/3#post-2741 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 18:17:18 +0000 Justin Tadlock 2741@http://themehybrid.com/community/ <p><strong>RE: Form Elements Extension</strong></p> <p>I think I'm going to drop this. It's turning out to be more trouble than it's worth.</p> <p>It's great for things like the <code>&lt;select&gt;</code> element, which has multiple options, but it's a hassle with other form elements.</p> <p>If anyone wants this, I'll still be happy to let you have it. It's pretty much a fully-developed set of functions. </p> billnanson on "Hybrid version 0.8 discussion" http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/3#post-2739 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:24:04 +0000 billnanson 2739@http://themehybrid.com/community/ <blockquote><p>RE: RE: Template for multiple taxonomies<br /> I ended up using Scribu's Query Multiple Taxonomies plugin. Although I would really like this feature as a part of Hybrid, the plugin works fine. You can find it here: <a href="http://scribu.net/wordpress/query-multiple-taxonomies" rel="nofollow">http://scribu.net/wordpress/query-multiple-taxonomies</a> </p></blockquote> <p>He actually developed it for me :-)<br /> It's running here on hybrid 0.71 / skeleton... <a href="http://www.burgundy-report.com/wp/index.php/finder/" rel="nofollow">http://www.burgundy-report.com/wp/index.php/finder/</a> </p> Justin Tadlock on "Hybrid version 0.8 discussion" http://themehybrid.com/community/topic/hybrid-version-08-discussion/page/3#post-2737 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:44:34 +0000 Justin Tadlock 2737@http://themehybrid.com/community/ <blockquote><p> Are you holding off on the framework alone until 0.8 and WP3.0? </p></blockquote> <p>I'm holding off on it indefinitely. The more I think about releasing the core framework, the more I realize that it's not really needed. Basically, it'd just be going against the idea of Hybrid in the first place, which is that one shouldn't have to recode everything for every theme release.</p> <p>The Hybrid theme does everything that's needed. And, if you <em>really</em> needed custom templates, those can be added within a child theme.</p> <p>I've got other pros/cons for releasing the framework separately, but I won't get into them now. </p>